Lest Anyone Should Wonder

Let it be known that the official position of this blogger is that God is the author and creator of life. He, by His Sovereign design, determines when life begins and when life ends. To that end, the act of aborting an unborn child in all instances where the life of the mother is not endangered is a sin – akin to murder.

Wherein the mother's life is endangered, all diligence in prayer should be sought, beseeching the mercies of God upon the mother and child to provide an alternative which will allow both to live. In the extremely rare instances where this prayer is not granted, and should the defense of the mother's life be chosen, the hand of mankind should tread lightly, and with fear of our Lord, in defense of the mother.

I am unashamedly pro-life and anti-abortion.

Just in case anyone should wonder.

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13 Comments on “Lest Anyone Should Wonder”

  1. kevinschultz Says:

    “[God], by His Sovereign design, determines when life begins and when life ends.”

    According to your statement, God has already determined the lifespans of aborted children. Why argue the point.

    Or did you mean, that since God determines when life begins, who are we, the created, to determine when life begins. In that same thought, we should not determine when life has not began. This leads to the rationalization of the pro-abortion camp which allows their hands (in their minds) to be clean in destroying a fetus.

    I guessing the later is your point, but seek your clarity. And how do you handle overtly deterministic view point I first expressed.

  2. Bulldawgy Says:

    I meant:

    God gives life and God takes it away. It is not up to mankind to enter any mechanism whereby innocent life is intentionally ended.

    If God, in His Sovereign design, has allowed that Bubba will commit adultery on March 7, 2009 – does that absolve Bubba from the guilt of that sin?

    Do you believe that God has numbered the days of all of His creation, including you, me, our wives, and our children, and the untold millions aborted before they draw their first breath (that is in 2006 alone)? I will presuppose your answer to be yes.

    That being said, I will ask, does that make it any less a sin to kill an unborn child? To believe otherwise is to tiptoe on the shoreline of hyper-Calvinism. Be careful your toes don’t get wet.

  3. kevinschultz Says:

    OK. To be clear. God comes to learn nothing. And God holds us responsible for sin. Both Biblical concepts I think I could defend. I don’t believe in lesser sins. I believe the grading of sins is a man made perspective. Break one law and you are guilty of breaking them all.

    And as I have said many times, I haven’t read a single book by Calvin, and therefore cannot accurately called one of his followers, ie a Calvinist, even a laid back one.

  4. Eric Says:

    Kevin, why do you think that God does not make moral distinctions between one sin and another? Were not the Scribes and Pharisees more guilty than the rest because they beheld Jesus’ miracles and they were (as Jews) privy to God’s revelation?

    Granted that He does not excuse any sin, and any sin wins the prize of eternal damnation.

    “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I tell you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. 24 But I tell you that git will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom than for you.”
    The Holy Bible : English standard version. 2001 (Mt 11:21-24). Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.

  5. kevinschultz Says:

    Isn’t this passage about the hardness of the people in regard to the appearance of miracles from the Messiah in flesh, not the grading of sin?

    Sodom had no miracles of Christ or first hand contact to react and repent. If they did, they would have repented, according to Christ.

    The Jews were not more guilty. I think we agree guilt is a binary. So the thrust of Matthew 11 is that the Jews had full relevation of Christ and were still unrepentant. It is hard to quantify “more tolerable” in this passage. Is God’s wrath ever tolerable to the point of more tolerable? Equating degrees of judgement with degrees of sin is a stretch for me.

  6. Bulldawgy Says:

    I think the direction Eric is going is Jesus’ statement:

    “But I tell you that git will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom than for you.”

    Does this not indicate that on the day of judgment, Capernaum will suffer greater (i.e. a less bearable judgement) than Sodom. Both had sinned and yet Jesus indicates one’s judgement will be greater.

    On another note, we certainly know that from our perspective there are differing degrees of consequences for our sin. A lie told about one’s professional achievements is a sin, no less than the murder of a neighbor. But the consequences are clearly different.

    Thoughts?

  7. Eric Says:

    My point is as John says. Just because ‘to break the law is to break the law’ does not imply that God cannot judge one sin more severely than another. If we can make moral distinctions, how much more able is God to make them?

    I don’t think guild is binary. There is innocence, then there are varying degrees of guilt. None of us are innocent; so, we all face judgement (without a savior). But Jesus seems to indicate that Judgement day will be very personal and will be worse for some than others.

  8. kevinschultz Says:

    Yes, judgement for Capernaum will be greater, cause Jesus said it. I am not arguing with that. That would be silly. But the judgement is for their lack of repentance in light of evidence, not for a greater sin. Repentance is the theme of the passage. Or is Eric’s point that not repenting after witnessing full revelation is a sin and the greatest? That could be another whole discussion.

    While earthly consequences may differ, God’s holiness and His command for us to be holy is broken with any sin committed. Also, because the ramifications of murder are quite evident, it seems like a greater sin to us. Perhaps, because we do not see all the ramifications of a lie, we downplay its consequences. Also, it is convienent for sinners to make the more frequent sin stops seem less offensive to ease our minds given our propensity to depravity.

  9. Hugh Says:

    Sorry, Kev, I think “guilt is a binary” is too simplistic. Yes, the verdict comes down “guilty” or “not guilty,” but there are degrees of offense (e.g., first-degree murder vs. third-degree manslaughter) as well as aggravating and mitigating factors to be considered in the way the offense was committed.

    For example, John 19:10-11 (emphasis mine)…

    Pilate said to him, “You will not speak to me? Do you not know that I have authority to release you and authority to crucify you?” Jesus answered him, “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above. Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin.”

  10. Hugh Says:

    To put my last comment another way:

    Guilt requires an offense.

    The question of whether you are guilty or not has a binary answer.

    But what are you guilty of? It is the offense that has degrees.

  11. kevinschultz Says:

    So Jesus again has stated the Pharisees have committed a greater sin, the third instance I believe in the Gospels. Are these judgements of greater sin isolated to the Jews of the day that denied Christ’s deity and the work of the Holy Spirit or are they applicable to our daily sin. Both?

    As Hugh put it, the Jews were guilty of a far greater offense then those preceding them. Are we capable of the same offense?

    I know I am not as elegant in speech and STR thought as you guys, and it frustrates me that I can’t explain myself adequately. So here’s the no holds barred visceral response:

    In the end, every fiber of my sanctified being screams out that sin is an offense to a Holy God, no matter how its committed. To make degrees of sin diminishes God’s Law and Character, which is what I get worked up about. Repentance comes when one is convicted of each sin, not just the ones that are big to us as created beings. I can’t fathom standing before God saying,”but it was only a lesser sin”. I do not have the moral character of God to give value ratings to each sin, so I will treat them the same where the Bible is silent. Every single one of them makes me fall short of His glory.

  12. Eric Says:

    Kevin, I agree with your sentiment. I just think your point can be made without denying God His prerogative of judging one sin more harshly than another. I also agree that this will be of no comfort to the one who thinks he will stand before God and argue that his sin is ‘not that bad.’

  13. kevinschultz Says:

    I just read Grudem’s take on degrees of sin since I now have the book. He points out that the valuation of sin has to do with the one who commits it. Teaches are held to a higher standard for example.

    Another thing is the apparent degrees of sin recorded in scripture give guidance as to which sins require the attention of the church and church discipline.

    My opinion regarding the gravity of all sin remains the same, yet I have been lovingly pushed by you guys to see different degrees of sin as the Bible puts forth.

    Thanks for your patience.


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